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Interview with "Scream for Me" Director Chris Broadstone and Actor Tony Simmons

Putting the Manners Back in Man-Rape
Again I am caught off guard. Sitting in the Tribeca Film Center for the umpteenth hour, my lap a trash heap of assorted crumbs and drool, I have just watched the most audacious film of the festival, a brutal yet comic morality play called "Scream for Me". This piece stands out amongst the crowd, to be certain: it is cleverly conceived and executed with an insane flair for the grotesque, and uses shocking images and action not to assault the audience, but rather to break its own characters down to their foundations. Impressed by the deft handling of themes like gender-bending, male rape, and bondage, I sought out the creator of the piece and was surprised to meet not a barbed-wire-chewing 7-foot Nazi drag dominatrix, but rather a mild-mannered and agreeable guy named Christopher Broadstone. He was gracious enough to consent to an interview for the site, and I assaulted him with questions about how a straight man could make the most queer-oriented film at the festival
. He was very accomadating, even pulling his star (Tony Simmons, who plays the man-rapin' redneck Madman) into the discussion, and both shared some great insights about horror, sexuality, censorship, and country crafts (I edited those parts out, though. Hardly appropriate.). Read on!



Wait - is that Lemmy from Motorhead?
Chris Broadstone's "Scream for Me"

The Interview
CampBlood: How did you come up with the idea for "Scream for Me"?
Chris Broadstone:
SCREAM FOR ME is based on an unpublished short story (of the same title) that I wrote many, many years ago. The original idea, and core theme, which pervades both story and film derives from my personal fear that there is nothing beyond life -- no Heaven, no Hell, no God, no Devil, and no reward or punishment. No justice. For me that's the real horror of the story. It's also the underlying motivation for the entire structure of the piece, and the development and arc of each character: Irene, Garrott, and Madman. The story also hinges on a concept of abnegation that has always haunted me: to be personally responsible for keeping the absolute truth from myself; although not because of fear of the unknown, but because of the fear of what I already know to be true and just can't accept. That's certainly the case with Garrott (Gabriel Sigal) in SCREAM FOR ME. He knows that the truth of what lies beyond life hides within the screams of his dying victims, but he habitually keeps that truth from himself by strangling his victims so they can't scream.

CB: In your film the real victim of the story dies early on and the film focuses on the killer getting his "just desserts". What compelled you to tell the story of justice being served, or -- considering that the girl is still dead, do you even consider it justice?
CB:
From my perspective SCREAM FOR ME isn't about justice being served, it's about injustice running wild and reigning over all. The girl, Irene (Lora Cunningham), represents an innocent, a victim of circumstance, a statistic: your average man or woman. She's someone trying hard to get ahead in life -- someone willing to sacrifice her own dignity and work as a stripper in effort to put herself through college. But what does she get for her trouble? A manic strangulation, a couple good slaps in the face, and then death by crushed windpipe and several hard blows to the head. Now that's where the story takes a left turn and things get kicked up a notch. Madman (Tony Simmons) enters and immediately transforms Garrott, our despised killer, into a victim as helpless as Irene. The tables are turned, but is justice really being served? In my eyes, yes and no. On one hand Garrott deserves whatever he gets (and he does get it good), but on the other hand he's also a victim of circumstance, just like Irene. If you listen to what Garrott is saying in the film, he's desperately trying to explain to Irene why he's become what he is and why he does what he does. He's compelled by his conscience to rationalize his insanity for his victim, as well as for himself. In doing so, he also conveys his deepest fear: my fear, that there's nothing beyond...my loved ones will not be waiting for me...there will only be oblivion, and it will be endless. Once again, no reward for being a good person and no punishment for the truly wicked. Again is it justice being rightfully served? Or is it just another -- albeit a more extreme example -- of injustice stampeding unbridled through this great plain of madness we all call life?

CB: Some might argue that you use the image of two men together as a 'horror element', a common occurrence in a heterocentric genre.
CB:
I never intended the Madman/Garrott relationship to be a homosexual 'horror element' to freak out heterosexuals -- although I knew it would on some level and in certain environments (but hey, I'll take my scares where I can get them). What I did intend was to portray a very skewed heterosexuality, which I think is what really disturbs those of us who are straight. Tony and I had many discussions about Madman's sexual orientation and possible abuse as a child, and we both agreed that the character was most likely not gay; although he walks and talks like a redneck homophobe that's quite arguably a closet case. Within the framework of the story, however, it's far more unsettling that he isn't gay at all. He's just Madman! A highly strung maniac that wants what he wants when he wants it, and is willing to do anything to get it. He's also clearly driven by raging social dysfunction and sheer lunacy. His mental and physical torment of Garrott is simply an effort to get his rocks off by pushing the parameters of his own madness to the absolute extreme. In other words, just killing Garrott isn't good enough for Madman, or fun enough. He has to twist and blur the lines of all he can, be it homicide, brutality, romanticism, reality, fantasy, homosexuality, or heterosexuality. His creative, and enthusiastic use of duct tape to give Garrott cleavage and tape down his privates is an example of that. Madman creates woman! And with his creation SCREAM FOR ME takes another left turn and suddenly slips into a very dark, claustrophobic world that is neither gay nor straight, real nor unreal, but is purely and uniquely Madman. Now that's entertainment!
Tony Simmons: To be honest, I wasn't terribly concerned that the role of Madman could demonize male-male contact. As Madman pretty directly expresses, he actually wanted pussy and very simply just had to make do with what was available (that was 'warm and squirming', of course). I believe that Madman is a really damaged person, whose sexuality is a non-issue. Madman actually isn't gay, although I do think that sex and anger and self-preservation are a little jumbled for him. I viewed him as a person who has suffered much abuse and as a result is so confused and socially twisted that he really just doesn't know how to relate very well with other people. He doesn't play well with others and it's a direct result of learning very conflicting things at an early age. In the same way that Garrott at times sees himself in Madman, I think there are also very distinct times when Madman sees himself in Garrott.

CB: You mentioned that you've had some straight festivals interpret your piece as homophobic, while gay audiences don't.
CB:
I think it's just the current social climate of political correctness. More simply put, it's OK for an African American to refer to another African American as a "nigger", but not OK for a white man to do so. In the gay community the same ideology applies. It's perfectly all right for one homosexual to call another a "fag", "fairy", or "butt pirate", but it's considered discrimination, harassment, or just plain bad taste to use such terms if a straight man is referring to a gay man. In the context of the film, Madman is constantly mocking Garrott with negative homosexual epithets -- calling him every name in the book and then some ---- from "faggot" to "bum boy" to "porno projector queer" to "worm-cock homo", and the list goes on. Most film festivals just don't want to show any films with characters openly, and so ebulliently, derogating ethnic groups of any color or sexual orientation. I think they believe that the general festival audience will be offended and, consequently, lash out against them for supporting such a film by allowing it to be screened. But it's not just fear of stepping on the toes of the gay community, or soiling the gay/straight peace, but it's also about the dreaded taboo of degradation toward females. On the surface SCREAM FOR ME is a grim portrait of man brutalizing woman, even if revenge is somewhat served later on in the film. And, of course, Madman constantly referring to Irene in terms that never elevate her beyond an object for sexual exploitation doesn't help. One thing you can say about Madman, however, is at least he doesn't discriminate in his bigotry. At heart he's really just an egalitarian trying to level the playing field for all. (Just don't get in his way.)

CB: Nudity, murder, and rape - I imagine that could make for a tense set. Any difficulties shooting?
CB:
I'd prepared a very detailed shot list, so there wasn't a lot of mucking about. We were all working constantly and had little time to think of much but making the best film we could make. Everyone, actors and crew, were well aware we were dealing with difficult subject matter and, consequently, were very supportive of each other. All of the violence was extensively rehearsed and choreographed in preproduction, and as for the nudity...well, on day one we were all a bit nervous (especially me and Tony), but by the time we got around to the big bare-bottom reveal 3 days into shooting, we were all deep in moviemaker mode and time was starting to run out. So it was all very professional -- clinical even -- and very much about hurry, hurry, hurry let's just get the shot! OK we're rolling... bath robe off...and action...magic, magic, magic...and cut!..bath robe back on. It was all a concerted effort that played out extremely well and is a testament to the professionalism of all involved. Glad we didn't suffer any "injustice" during those times. Or later at the film lab, for that matter. It would've killed the movie. And me.

CB: Tony, you must trust Chris immensely.
TS: As far as trusting Chris goes, I'm still missing some cash that I had laying around the house the last time he visited.
Ooooooooh. You mean artistically! I have to say that Chris's writing automatically lead me to believe that he was a sensitive and creative person. Luckily, we spent time rehearsing, since there was plenty of choreography with regards to all the tying up and stuff. That time gave us the opportunity to get to know each other and gain each other's trust. I have to say here that working with Gabriel was a really wonderful experience. He's a very talented actor. On a certain level serendipity brought about a very good mix of individuals. Everyone working on SFM was wholly committed to the project (with the exception of two makeup girls who weren't mature enough to work with the material).
Since SFM, Chris and I have become friends and so the trust level has grown or deepened. But I suppose at the time, it was a matter of finding the material appealing, experiencing a really positive vibe from the people working on the project and kinda just going with it and hoping that my gut wasn't misleading me. Chris is pretty specific about what he wants, which is nice in the sense that you have some guidance. At the same time, he is also very willing to let you go out on a limb and try something different. If he likes it, cool. If he doesn't, cool. There's no issue of ego involved. He wants the movie to work. I know he'd rather the movie work and he be allowed to take credit for someone else's idea (because ultimately he gets the blame or the credit), than for the movie to not work and for him to have won some stupid ego-battle.

CB. As a gay man and an actor, do you feel a responsibility to the gay community to play gay characters?
TS: As a gay male, I feel absolutely no responsibility to play gay characters. The only reason I say it that way is that although I am very much gay I am also very much white and very much liberal (politically) and very much brown eyed and very much lower middle class (or upper lower class) and very much non-religious and very much... Please keep in mind that I am not coming from a closeted place. I've actually spent a lot of time immersed in the gay community. That is perhaps a part of what makes me a bit of a cynic when people talk about the gay community as if it's this altruistic utopia. There are plenty of sexists and racists and assholes in the gay community as there are plenty in any other 'grouping' of humans. I happen to believe in equal rights across the board. Whatever freedom or right one person has, it should be shared by all others. The one responsibility I feel is to be true to whatever character I have the chance to portray. If that person is an upper class, well educated, gay, republican, conservative, I would want to portray that person as honestly and dynamically as possible. I know that if I were offered a role of a stereotype, I would be inclined to think twice about it. Unless it was something that was stylized in such a way as to be artistically appropriate. SFM was an over-the-top stylized short that used those qualities to present an idea. Sort of like impressionist painting, or jazz music. My personal politics are pretty distinct to me and if I were to try and limit my acting to characters who reflected those political beliefs, I would work less than I do already.

CB: And none of us needs that! There is a LONG tradition of horror films using gay themes as horror elements, rather than as character traits. Oddly, though, many gays (like myself) associate with the horror genre closely, even though we are encouraged to identify with the queer villain rather than the victim. How would you feel about gay men identifying with Madman?
TS:
That's a tough one. To be upfront, I have never been one who watched horror stuff. When I was a kid, I was a huge Edgar Allan Poe fan, but scary movies were never something that drew me in. It's this creepy mug that seems to attract me to folks doing horror. As much as I am personally inclined to play the young, delicate, virginal, engenue, they just aren't calling my agent with those roles in mind. So, I have to say that I've not seen that much in the way of gay villains. Other than in gay bars, that is. Personally, I find the darker characters are often more richly drawn or offer a greater variety in the means of portrayal. It doesn't really matter if the 'good guy' or 'bad guy' is of one sexual orientation or another. That said, I suppose it's a matter of popular public opinion as to when a character's sexual orientation is as uncontroversial as character's race or sex or hair color. As far as gay men identifying with Madman, I can only say that if you identify with Madman, perhaps you should see a doctor. Or at least a dance instructor!

CB: What do you have on the slate for future projects?
CB: Right now I've got a lot on my plate. Last Labor Day I shot another short film starring Tony Simmons, titled HUMAN NO MORE. Due to festivals and promoting both my previous films, however, I haven't yet had any time to get into all the editing and post sound work. I'm also finishing the publisher's proofs for my first horror novel, PUZZLEMAN, which will hopefully be available by February 2004. As soon as the proofs are completed, however, I'll definitely be hitting HUMAN NO MORE hard, and hope to have it finished in time to submit to next year's NYCHFF. Wish me luck!
TS: Although I've got a couple of flicks I had small roles in that are in post-production, I've nothing on the drawing board right now. So, I am just prostituting myself around as the opportunity arises, which unfortunately, isn't that often. There's really not much sadder than an old prostitute trying to hustle up tricks, ya know. Okay, Brian, you can uncover the furniture and let the pets back in the house.

We all scream for "Scream for Me"
"Scream for Me" picked up the Best Short award at the NYC Horror Film Fest, and we wish Chris, Tony, and the rest of the cast and crew continued success. For more on the film and Chris's other projects, check out his official website. Thanks much for the time and insights, guys!