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Interview with Homo Horror Hall-of-Famer Dave DeCoteau

 

A Friendly Neighbor to the North

I really am one of the luckiest fags alive, people. See, my horror puberty (the point when you realize that horror films are not just blood and guts, but actually SEX, blood and guts) can more or less be crystallized in one horror moment: the shower scene in Creepozoids. Most people remember the scene because Scream Queen Linnea Quigley is hot and lathery, and that's perfectly fair. But I remember the scene because there was a beefy male ass on display (attached to one Ken Abraham), something that my little 13-year-old self wasn't expecting in a cheap, campy Alien rip-off.

Following this formative incident, I came across a few other gems by the same twisted filmmaker, most notably Sorority Babes in the Slimeball Bowl-o-Rama, which manages to marry several of my favorite themes: demons, sorority initations, Linnea Quigley, and bowling. A batshit, zany, and completely original horror comedy classic, Sorority Babes manages to be sleazy without being threatening, gory while being funny, and stupid without being insulting to anyone's intelligence. It remains one of the finest B-flicks from the 80's, or ever -- they just don't make them like that anymore.

So imagine my sheer delight in being able to offer here an interview with the brains behind these (and literally dozens of other) flicks, the fecund and charming Dave DeCoteau. Dave was kind enough to take time out of his production schedule and brittle Canadian winter to answer a few of my silly questions about being a gay filmmaker in the horror biz, staying in sync with the horror market, and boys in undies.


Dave DeCoteau Teaches Us How to Score
(the classic Sorority Babes)

The Interview

Let’s start at the very beginning (a very good place to start): what was your first break in the film business?
Well, I started working for Roger Corman at New World Pictures when I was 18, skinny with big hair.

A popular look at the time. Were you a fan of horror films growing up?
I was a fan of all types of movies. Horror was great because it was usually a rollercoaster ride.

Early years: you directed Creepozoids, Nightmare Sisters, and Sorority Babes in the Slimeball Bowl-O-Rama – which many people might consider the ultimate cult movie hat-trick. This is quite an impressive feat right out of the gate – what drove your success?
Wanting it more than anything. I didn't have a life. I lived and breathed the movie industry. Nothing was going to stop me. I lucked out and met Charlie Band who made all my dreams come true. He is a great friend to this day.

You worked a lot with the scream queens in their early years. What was the atmosphere on the sets and in LA at the time?
You could make anything and it sold. This was the free spirit of B movies back then. You took risks that the majors couldn't because the budgets were low and there was this new market called HOME VIDEO. You literally couldn't make enough movies to fill the demand. This led to a fun and playful attitude on the set. This was my adopted family and I
had a blast getting paid to make crazy movies.

Did you expect these films to have the lasting impact they’ve had?
No not at all. I felt they would come out make money and then disappear. Fred Olen Ray and I get together for dinner when I'm in LA and we talk about how we're known for making our most notorious movies, Sorority Babes and Hollywood Chainsaw Hookers.


The Horrors of Interstellar Babysitting Revealed
(from Creepozoids)

Can you tell me anything fabulous about working with Linnea, Brinke, and Michelle at the same time?
Well they liked me because they are fag hags at heart and love working. I also tried to keep their clothes on as
much as I was allowed. I loved them because they could act, are good friends and have a sense of humor about movies.

About the nudity -- are you trying to tip the scales in the other direction with your nekkid boy horror flicks from Rapid Heart?
T&A was big back then. There aren't any naked boys in my movies now. Just dudes in undies.

Your filmography on IMDB lists 51 movies in 18 years (it’s probably even higher). How much coffee do you drink?
Too much but I'm slowing down. Moving to Canada was a way of cooling off (literally) and going into semi retirement. I just turned 43 but feel much older. They say its not the age but the mileage! Its true.

Remember I was 18 when I moved to LA. GAY+18+LA= Too much damned fun. I lived as a swinging bachelor for years burning the candle at both ends, drinking, partying, hot and cold running boys, living out of a suitcase, shooting all over the damned planet. Way too much living. I needed to settle down and grow up. So I bought a condo in Canada and am relaxing. 3 or 4 movies a year, not 8!

To what do you credit your staying power and success?
I realized long ago that having any kind of success in this business is not achieved using exact science. There isn't a rule book in the most desired craft in the world. You have to be clever, hard working and lucky. I'm not saying I've had success in this business, its just that I have been a working director for 18 years now and that must mean that I must be doing something right.

Can we talk about Ellen Cabot (one of Dave's many pseudonyms)? I really need to know the story behind this one. Was she your favorite aunt or something?
Just a drag name. All gay boys need a drag name. I love high camp and movies just haven't been the same since Divine died.

So you went from horror and camp horror to erotic thriller, and moved in your last career shift back to horror, more specifically targeted at teens. Is that safe to say? Why the teen shift – was it simply the success of the Scream business model?
I'm a slave to the market like any working Director. I've done em all. Comedy, Family, Horror, Action, Sci Fi. Scream made the Teen genre commercial again. It still is.

Tell me about Rapid Heart – it’s quite an ambitious project, and it seems to have been very successful thus far. What’s the goal?
If I had to direct horror movies I wanted to make the kind I would want to see. Horror is a great genre to experiment in because if you stay within a certain formula you can do some cool things. Take chances.

Your recent films are soaked in homoerotic imagery and themes. Why no explicit gay content?
I've answered this question so many times in my commentary tracks on DVDs. Lets just say expect more homo action to come. I'm just easing into this genre one pubic hair at a time.

That's quite a visual. My local Blockbuster is stocked to the walls with gay films all of a sudden, but I know that in the past they’ve been quite conservative in their library. Did you ever have problems getting your films in?
Blockbuster has been a great customer of mine. They have picked up my last 20 or so movies. Blockbuster picks up films they can make money with. My movies make money for them. I have a track record and there buying decisions are made based on that.

Some critics suggest that your recent films are simply “D&A” movies that are just excuses to look at cute boys. How would you respond?
Everyone has an opinion. As long as they keep renting the movies I couldn't care less why. Like I said, I am making the kind of horror flicks I want to see. So far it seems like many others agree with my taste - worldwide.


Abercrombie & Leech
(some of the fellas of Leeches!, one of Rapid Heart's recent titles)


Is that a phallic symbol in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
(from The Brotherhood 2: Young Warlocks)

Do you identify with the gay lifestyle? How do you feel that your sexuality informs your understanding of horror?
I am openly gay. I am fearless about my filmmaking. Maybe being in the closet for so long and then coming out has allowed me to not have any more secrets. I guess that would affect my point of view when making a film.

Leather Jacket Love Story really stands apart from the rest of your canon. I’ll go out on a limb and say it’s a more personal project? Are you really a romantic at heart?
Totally romantic. I'm an old fashioned queen. Not tired, just sleepy.

Queer artists throughout the years have made enormous contributions to the horror arena. What is the thing that you’d most like to be remembered for – not that we’re ready for you to kick it, of course. But long-term?
Remember, Walt Disney made a film about Ed Wood. There is hope for me yet!

Would you have any advice to young gay horror filmmakers who might have misgivings about being out in their professional life?
Coming out is the best thing to do no matter what business your in. If people have a problem with you being gay then they're in for a long hard life.

What’s next for Dave DeCoteau?
Just finished The Sisterhood w/ Barbara Crampton & Witches of the Caribbean w/ Joanna Cassidy in the Turks and Caicos Islands in the Bahamas. Killer Bash and The Brotherhood 4 in Vancouver, British Columbia. Looks like I'm heading to Italy next month to direct The Pool 2. Of course, I am doing Voodoo Academy 2 in Eastern Europe this year as well.

You see, I am slowing down!

..."One Pubic Hair at a Time"

If "slowing down" means only making 3 or 4 films a year, I guess you could classify the pace of the majority of other filmmakers as "glacial". While I may have missed the boat on some of the recent teen-targeted fare from Rapid Heart (being, sadly, not so close to being a teen anymore... *sniffle*), I am thrilled to have been able to pick the twisted brain of a man who is truly a homo horror hall-of-famer, having provided the gay horror audience with camp, skin, blood, and laughs for nearly 20 years and counting. I myself eagerly await the full-on homo horror extravaganzas that Dave hints may be on their way. For now, I'll settle for Linnea, Brinke, and Michelle in a bathtub (in Nightmare Sisters).

Huge thanks to Dave DeCoteau for sharing his time and thoughts with CampBlood.org, and best wishes for continued successes with Rapid Heart and other ventures.

For more info on what Dave's currently up to, check out the official site of his production company. His Rapid Heart features will be premiering the HereTV network in the US and Pridevision TV in Canada.

Scream Queens sing the praises of Dave's camp classics
(from Sorority Babes)